Wednesday, January 30, 2008

Late Christmas present

Hey gang:
Who said you can't make news outside of football during Super Bowl week.
The Mets pulled off quite the coup (assuming they get him signed) by trading for Johan Santana.
A GREAT job by Omar Minaya to get the deal done.
In the past 24 hours since the deal was done, I've read a lot of blogs from arrogant Mets fans calling the Yankees losers for not acquiring Santana and blogs from equally-arrogant Yankee fans saying the Mets have to thank the Yanks for essentially pulling out of the deal.
It's pretty nuts how we fans react to things at times.
Should the Yankees be happy Santana didn't go the Boston Red Sox as was heavily rumored a month ago? Absolutely.
Should the Mets be happy they get the best pitcher in baseball for four prospects? Duh!
It sounds to me like a win-win situation all around.
Until next time, take care and God bless.

11 Comments:

Blogger DC said...

I won't completely jump for joy until they sign him, but this is awesome news for Mets fans.

The Mets needed him more than the Sox and Yanks. Kudos to Omar for holding out and only giving up these 4 prospects. First everyone said the Mets could only be players if Reyes or Wright were on the table. Then they supposedly had to give up both young outfield prospects - Gomez and Fernando Martinez. Omar pulled it off and keeps Martinez and Mike Pelfrey too. And because he made shrwed deals for Maine and Perez the last couple of years, he can afford to trade the young pitchers.

I think the Twins - or maybe even Santana himself (he has a no trade clause) - didn't want to trade him to the Yanks or Sox. They preferred to send him to the National League and that helped the Mets cause.

The Yanks need an ace (a Beckett type ace) so if I was Cashman and a deal could have been made for Hughes and Melky, while keeping Kennedy and Joba, I would have done it. But Cashman gets to keep his 3 young pitchers now and all 3 looked great last year. One of them, or Wang, needs to step up in the playoffs.

The Sox gave up one of the best young players in baseball, Hanley Ramirez, to get Beckett - along with other good talent - but that's still obviously a great deal for the Red Sox because Beckett won them a World Series. And maybe he'll win them some more. If Santana has a few more Santana like years, this deal will always be looked at as a great deal for the Mets, even if some or all of the prospects turn out to be great.

Mets rotation: Santana, Pedro, Maine, Perez, Pelfrey/El Duque ... now we're talking!

January 30, 2008 at 9:44 PM 
Blogger Johnny said...

It's official, seven years, $150.5 million for Santana. Not sure if he's worth that $$$---is anybody, and I'm not sure if this is a good signing for the Torontos, Kansas Citys and Pittsburghs of the world.

That said, if he helps the Mets win one World Series (or get to two and lose), then he'll be worth all the money.

Until next time.

February 1, 2008 at 8:21 PM 
Blogger Ron Rosner said...

Well DC:
Now you can jump for joy.
As usual, your comments are spot on. The Mets picked up one heck of a pitcher. As long as he stays healthy I believe Johan will be worth every dime the Mets will pay him.
I still think Pedro and El Duque are question marks in terms of health and age, but Maine and Perez, I believe, will only get better.
And given it's the NL, no Yanks, Red Sox, Tigers, Angels or Indians, if the Mets don't win it, you could argue it might be as big a collapse -- if not bigger -- than last year.
Ah, heavy is the head that wears the crown.

February 1, 2008 at 8:46 PM 
Blogger Johnny said...

Officially, it's a 6-year $137.5 with an $18.75 million option or $5.5 million buyout in year seven.

I still think the Yankees did the right thing by keeping Hughes. This kid is going to be very good.

I'm not a Yankee fan, so I will never understand the "win it every year mantra," so why not let these three guys---Chamberlain, Kennedy, Hughes, along with Wang and Pettitte pitch and see where it goes. If they pitch decently and the Yanks go 85-77, is that a complete and utter disaster? Personally, I don't think so, but I'm probably in the minority here.

The Yanks will probably mess things up by giving the fifth spot to Mussina, but I would put him in the bullpen and if sulks, trade him to Kansas City. He could be useful out of the pen by the way, he still has something left.

The Twins may not have gotten great prospects, but they had to make the trade and get some value. Thy offered Santana $80 million for four years and he shot that down. Was that a "real" offer? Perhaps not, but they were willing to give him $20 million per year. I think Humber can be an effective major leagie pitcher and Gomez does have a big upside.

Remember, it was the Twins whpotraded A.J. Pierzinksi to San Francisco to Francisco Liriano and Joe Nathan. The Twins did okay with that one.

February 2, 2008 at 2:23 PM 
Blogger Ron Rosner said...

Johnny:
I agree with you on that, and as a Yankee fan, I am glad they held on to the kids. I've seen too many years recently where the Yankees make the big splash with an offseason move and yet since losing to Boston, they can't get out of the first round.
Yankee fans have been hearing about Hughes forever, and they got a brief look at Hughes, Joba and Ian Kennedy last year, so I say they roll the dice.
I've also heard from many Red Sox fans saying they were happy they didn't have to give up Jon Lester or Jacoby Ellsbury for Santana.
That said, it was a HUGE move for the Mets.

February 2, 2008 at 9:24 PM 
Blogger Johnny said...

It is a great move by the Mets---they needed a front line starter, and if he wins them a World Series, it will be all worth it to the Metties and their fans.

And, they didn;t give up any can't miss prospects. Gomez is a decent player, but is he a Miguel Cabrera or a Melky Cabrera. Melky: a solid player; Miguel: a superstar.

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