Monday, February 4, 2008

What a game

Well folks:
All I could say after watching Super Bowl XLII is, "Wow!"
Not having a rooting interest for either the now-Super Bowl champion New York Giants or the now-once beaten New England Patriots, it was absolutely a blast to watch the game -- especially the second half.
Never in my wildest imagination did I think the Giants could stop the Pats' offense.
And in the end Eli Manning continued his emergence as a big-time quarterback, with a HUGE assist from little-known (outside of Giant fans' circles) David Tyree.
When I gave my prediction of the Patriots defeating the Giants, I ended my post with a question of where the Patriots -- with a win -- would rank among the best teams of all-time.
Now that gets replaced with this question.
How many of you Giants fans, who less than two months ago were saying the Giants will never win with Eli Manning as your quarterback and Tom Coughlin as your coach, now want to put these guys on the same lofty level as Phil Simms and Bill Parcells?
Just a thought.
Until next time, take care and God bless.


Blogger Johnny said...

The Giants have now played in the two most exciting Super Bowls of all-time: Super Bowl 25 and 42. In both games, every play was so vital to the game's outcome. When New York beat Buffalo 20-19, there were no turnovers in the game at all. Yesterday, there was one by each team, actually teo by New England counting their miss on 4th and 13---they should have tried a FG there.

A gut wrenching, white kncukler of a game to be sure and perhaps one of the greatest sports upsets in professional sports history.

By year, not by rank:
1) 1968 New York Jets
2) 1969 New York Mets
3) 2007 New York Giants

We'll be telling out grandkids about this one.

February 4, 2008 at 7:51 PM 
Blogger DC said...

No lie - I have been an Eli fan and an Eli defender for a long time. On the one hand, Eli asked for it by forcing his way out of San Diego, leading to all the comparisons to Philip Rivers, Big Ben, and of course his brother. But the impatience of fans with Eli always bugged me. Over the last couple of years I've had arguments with my dad - a huge Giants fan - about Eli. First he said they should have drafted Big Ben and kept the draft picks. Then he said they should have drafted Rivers and kept the draft picks. (Sentiments echoed by many Giants fans.) And all along I'm thinking, I think Eli will be better than those guys. And who knows how those guys do in NY, playing for Couglin, playig in the Meadowlands, playing for the Giants with their lousy previous offensive coordinator (Hufnagel). So it is sweet to see Eli pull this off. The verdict is in. Big Ben is very good, Rivers is very good. But Eli doesn't have to listen to those comparisons anymore. He won the Super Bowl. Discussion over. It was a great trade.

I will admit that I was never a Coughlin fan. I thought they were a poorly coached team last year. But I was reluctantly glad they kept him as opposed to firing him without a viable replacement in the works. Replacing the offensive and defensive coordinators were huge moves. And clearly Coughlin deserves all the credit in the world for his coaching job this year. Having all those great pass rushers helped too. And a great job by GM Jerry Reese - everyone he drafted last year was a playoff contributor.

Awesome game. Great fun to watch. In fact, I'm watching some of it again on Tivo now. I have great respect for the Patriots and Belichick - if it was anyone but the Giants I would have been rooting for them to go undefeated. But man, what a game.

February 4, 2008 at 10:50 PM 
Blogger Johnny said...

The Giants upset was one for the ages—a monumental upset. Not in any order, but here are the all-time shockers in PROFESSIONAL SPORTS.

1) 1969 Mets—they were bad in 1968 finishing 9th out of 10 teams in the National League with a 73-89 record, the first time since their 1962 inception that they didn’t lose at least 95 games. The ‘69 team batted .242 as a team and won 100 games and seven of eight games in the playoffs

2) 1968 Jets—Namath shines in the original and authentic guarantee. And, he calls every play at the line of scrimmage, simple telling his teammates in the huddle, “check with me.”

3) 2007 Giants—I have watched the 4th quarter three times and each time I keep waiting for for Tyree to drop the ball. Is David Tyree the football equal of Met 2B Al Weis or does he compare to the catches made by Mets Tommy Agee and Ron Swoboda?

4) The 1960 Pirates—routed in three losses, they pull out four close ones to stun Yankees. This loss still doesn’t sit well with old-time Yankee fans. Pirates just 78-76 in 1959.

5) The 1990 Cincinnati Reds—when the Reds played Oakland in the World Series, many predicted a sweep. The prediction came true, only it was a sweep by the underdog Little Red Machine.

6) The 2003 Florida Marlins—the 2003 Baseball Final Four consisted of three grand old franchises, the Yanks, BoSox and Cubbies, and the 15,000 fans per game Florida Marlins. Both the Sox and Cubs are within five outs of setting up a World Series that might have garnered a Super Bowl like rating. But, in the end, the team nobody cared about (except me, of course) stuns the Cubs with eight in the eighth in Game 6, routs them in Game 7 and then finishes off the Yankees in the WS with Josh Beckett starting a Tom Brady like coolness in postseason games.

7) The 2001 New England Patriots—led by unknown QB Tom Brady, the Pats outlast the high flying Rams 20-17. See number three for comparison. Like yesterday’s game, the favored Rams score late, but leave enough time on the clock for Brady and Vinatieri.

8) 1966 Baltimore Orioles—This was the beginning of a great Oriole run, but the Los Angeles Dodgers were the defending champions and still had Koufax (final season) and Drysdale on the hill. The Orioles win Game 1, 5-2. After scoring a run in the bottom of the 3rd in Game 1, the Dodgers would score no more for the next 33 innings, losing in four straight with the last three scores being 6-0, 1-0, 1-0. Wow.

9) The 1997 Denver Broncos—the Broncos had lots of things going against them. At 37, Johnny Elway was at the end of his career, they were 11 point underdogs, the Packers were the defending champions, and the NFC had won 13 straight Super Bowls. But, the Broncos had the running game, and the running back, Terrell Davis who in three quarters rushed for 157 yards on 30 carries in a 31-24 win.

February 5, 2008 at 12:48 AM 
Blogger Johnny said...

Tom Coughlin is an outstanding coach, even before this win. I judge coaches by how many times his teams reach the AFC or NFC Championship Game. Coughlin took the Jacksonville Jaguars to two AFC Championship Games. Yes, they lost both, but do we realize how hard it is to even get to a Conference Championship Game? The great Dan Fouts only played in two; the great Dan Marino three; the overrated Brett Favre has played in only four in 16 seasons!. Even Peyton Manning, in 10 seasons, has only played in two, the same as Kurt Warner.

Coughlin is 1-2 in Conference Championship Games and 1-0 in the Super Bowl, the same Super Bowl record as John Madden, but Madden was only 1-7 in AFL/AFC Championship Games.

It's hard enough to play for an AFC or NFC Championship let alone a Super Bowl.

February 5, 2008 at 12:55 AM 
Blogger Ron Rosner said...

DC, Johnny:
Sorry so long in responding.
DC -- I believe you when you say you were an Eli fan throughout. I just think it's funny how so many people have come out of the woodwork to jump on the bandwagon.
But I guess it comes with the territory. I saw with the 86 Mets, when the Yankees started their run in 96 and now with the Giants.
Johnny -- Your pro sports upset list is pretty much spot on as far as I could see.
Here's my one question. Would an upset be greater in MLB, NBA or NHL (if anyone cares about hockey)than football simply because it's a seven-game series?
Just curious.

February 6, 2008 at 8:01 PM 
Blogger Johnny said...

Last year, Golden State, an 8 seed beat #1 seed Dallas in the NBA Playoffs. That did get a lot of run in the press and was a shocker. And, in 2006, Edmonton, the number 8 seed in the Western Conference lost a seventh game in the Stanley Cup finals. That might not have gotten a lot of attention, but it would have been a big deal.

In 1981 the Houston Rockets won the Western Conference and played in the NBA Finals with a 40-42 record, but Boston beat them in six games, and in 1977-1978, the Washington Bullets won the NBA title with 44 or 45 wins.

I just think that football has left all the other sports in the dust. There is such a gap between football and baseball and another huge gap between baseball and basketball. I haven't watched an NBA game from start to finish in a long, long time.

Like you, Ron, I am a huge baseball fan, but we're lucky we live in the Northeast where the Yanks, Mets and Red Sox are big players and Boston and New York love baseball more than football. That's rare these days.

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